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U.S.-based Charles Schwab is said to be interested in a deal with Itaú — Foto: Reprodução
U.S.-based Charles Schwab is said to be interested in a deal with Itaú — Foto: Reprodução

After Itaú exercised the option to buy another stake in XP two weeks ago, of 11.36%, investors began to approach both to discuss a potential purchase of the shares. One interested buyer in talks is U.S.-based Charles Schwab, Valor’s business website Pipeline found out.

Finding a buyer for a relevant stake paves the way and speeds up Itaú’s intended exit, which, in principle, is seen as happening gradually after two block trades since last year. XP is very interested in moving forward with the talks with Schwab and replacing Itaú with a new strategic partner, the sources said.

The U.S.-based company inspired XP to become a retail investment platform. It is not the first time XP and Schwab get closer. The American financial firm studied investing in Guilherme Benchimol’s company years ago, but the size of the business did not make sense for Schwab then.

Although the seller is Itaú, XP has been directly involved in this matter to reach an outcome that makes sense for the company in the long run, one source said. XP said last week that it would study buying Itaú’s stake. XP unveiled Thursday a share buyback program of up to R$1 billion. Finding a partner in the market is a more economical and much more strategic way to do so.

XP started the international retail expansion with a project of international investment accounts abroad – it already offers “private” clients access to products through offices in New York and Geneva. XP could stand out with Schwab on its board and explore these markets.

“There are interested buyers approaching XP and Itaú. All they have to do is to put it on the block,” said another source, who declined to name investors. The potential sale of Itaú’s stake is a window for investors with a long-term vision to buy a relevant position into XP at a discounted price – the company continues in operational growth mode, but shares dropped to $18.95 from $27 in the IPO, in December 2019.

XP took another step to go global on Thursday. The company rose almost 7% right after unveiling XTAGE, a trading platform for digital assets in partnership with Nasdaq Market Technology, the group that operates the U.S.-based technology exchange.

XP is valued at $10.8 billion on Nasdaq. Schwab is worth $123 billion.

The original story in Portuguese was first published on Valor’s business website Pipeline.

Source: Valor International

https://valorinternational.globo.com

Rodrigo Moreira and José Berenguer — Foto: Silvia Zamboni/Valor
Rodrigo Moreira and José Berenguer — Foto: Silvia Zamboni/Valor

XP intends to strengthen its hand in the space it considers less busy in the corporate segment: that of companies with cash surpluses rather than those that require credit – and typically provide better returns to banks.

After revenues in the segment reached R$850 million last year, compared with zero three years earlier, the platform plans to go a long way in the so-called “middle market,” which brings together businesses with revenues above R$200 million. XP was born making only investments and now boasts R$815 billion under custody.

XP, with about 50,000 clients in its portfolio and R$65 billion under custody in this segment, plans to reach 400,000 companies by 2025 and increase revenues with the segment tenfold by then. Last year, net funding was close to R$30 billion. To expand its base, XP bets on independent financial advisers connected to the platform, which have been adding specialized labor. Of the 500-people commercial team, 90% comes from the external channel.

Since it went public on Nasdaq, at the end of 2019, XP has said that people in Brazil are leaving large banks behind, a move still in its earlier chapters. Yet, XP itself became a bank by setting up the infrastructure of services existing in the old-school financial firms. This created the conditions to move beyond investments. Now the firm wants to repeat in the corporate business what it achieved among individual clients.

“[Corporate] clients who are purely investors are not the main targets [of banks]. They are not the ones who pay the highest spread because they have more bargaining power, they are not so dependent on credit, the bank does not get a ‘cross sell’ so easily,” said Rodrigo Moreira, a partner at XP who leads the corporate business since 2019, after a decade at Itaú. “Banks don’t have a broad suite of products in the portfolio for investment clients. It’s an easier arena for us to fight in.”

By starting with the investment end, XP follows the same logic that helped it scale up services to individuals. This approach includes a platform open to third-party products and a technological overhaul that matches the regulator’s agenda with the advent of open banking to foster competition, said José Berenguer, CEO of Banco XP. “The banking segment will be part of our services, but we will work to connect other providers to our platform. We try to have simple contracts and price appropriately as we do not have to shoulder fixed costs,” he said, referring to distribution through independent financial advisers.

The base is the investment account, since the XP bank account for companies is not yet transactional, Mr. Berenguer said. The firm expects to increase the power of attraction when this stage is over, something expected for later this year. The executive says it is reasonable to estimate that at the current growth rate, the segment will double in size every 18 months.

According to the executive, this customer group is poorly served in traditional bank branches, which depends on credit, pay expensive rates and is the first to suffer in crises. “It is the first credit that disappears,” Mr. Berenguer said.

Offering unsecured credit is not, however, in the original script of Banco XP. “We have also been doing it, but it is not the flagship. Many credits are collateralized [with investments], but our role is also to teach how to take credit, to have a financial life more adequate to the reality of the budget, of the companies’ income,” he said.

Mr. Moreira believes that over time credit will become important for XP as a whole. “Will it be the most important line? Only time will tell, but it is unlikely to happen in the short term.” He says that the company already has some structures where it takes some risk, combining investment collateral. The most likely is to move into some kind of working capital, with export financing lines, with the use of derivatives and treasury operations.

When mapping the universe of entrepreneurs or executives in leading positions in the companies, XP counted about 150,000 clients within its own base, Mr. Moreira said. This has been the starting point. There is synergy with the public served in private banking, of high-net-worth individuals and families.

Source: Valor International

https://valorinternational.globo.com