{"id":100396,"date":"2026-10-27T16:28:57","date_gmt":"2026-10-27T19:28:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/murray.adv.br\/?p=100396"},"modified":"2026-10-27T16:28:57","modified_gmt":"2026-10-27T19:28:57","slug":"lula-should-propose-fiscal-adjustment-this-year-ubs-director-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/murray.adv.br\/en\/lula-should-propose-fiscal-adjustment-this-year-ubs-director-says\/","title":{"rendered":"Lula should propose fiscal adjustment this year, UBS director says"},"content":{"rendered":"<section class=\"content--header\">\n<div class=\"row content-head non-featured \">\n<div class=\"title\">\n<h6 class=\"content-head__title\" style=\"text-align: center\"><em>Goal is to address deterioration in public finances caused by the election and take advantage of a more favorable Congress, argues Solange Srour<\/em><\/h6>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content__signa-share\">\n<div class=\"content__signature\">\n<div class=\"content-publication-data\">\n<div class=\"content-publication-data__text\">\n<div class=\"content-publication-data__from\"><\/div>\n<p class=\"content-publication-data__updated\"><time datetime=\"2026-10-27T08:57:09.281-03:00\">10\/27\/2026 <\/time><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"content-media__image\" src=\"https:\/\/s2-valorinternational.glbimg.com\/NctTzQkeY8-6jsafrKt9Q2GfrQo=\/984x0\/smart\/filters:strip_icc()\/i.s3.glbimg.com\/v1\/AUTH_63b422c2caee4269b8b34177e8876b93\/internal_photos\/bs\/2026\/r\/j\/BczJWOQsKzCBhRTkZvgA\/foto27bra-101-srour-a8.jpg\" alt=\"Solange Srour, director of macroeconomics for Brazil at UBS GWM \u2014 Foto: Anna Carolina Negri\/Valor\" width=\"3996\" height=\"2652\" \/><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<div id=\"mc-article-body\" class=\"mc-article-body ready cropped\">\n<article>\n<div class=\"no-paywall\">\n<div class=\"row medium-uncollapsed content-media content-photo\" data-block-type=\"backstage-photo\" data-block-id=\"0\">\n<div class=\"mc-column content-media__container\" data-image-display=\"normal\">\n<div class=\"content-media-container\">\n<figure class=\"content-media__figure\"><figcaption class=\"content-media__description\">Solange Srour, director of macroeconomics for Brazil at UBS GWM \u2014 Photo: Anna Carolina Negri\/Valor<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column mc-side-item__container\" data-block-type=\"ads\" data-block-id=\"1\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"84\" data-block-id=\"2\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\">Brazil\u2019s 2026 election campaign worsened the country\u2019s fiscal problems and made it more urgent for the reelected president to address the issue, says <strong>Solange Srour<\/strong>, director of macroeconomics for Brazil at UBS GWM. In her view, Lula should announce the measures this year to take advantage of a Congress that is less opposed to his government and the good relations he has cultivated with the presidents of both chambers\u2014advantages he may no longer have, or that could be called into question, starting next year.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"79\" data-block-id=\"4\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\">Although the new legislature is more aligned with the right, it could hinder fiscal adjustment more than help it because it will require greater negotiating skills, she says. \u201cIt is easier for Congress to embrace a populist measure because, when it goes wrong, the consequences will fall into the executive branch\u2019s lap. Spending control, by contrast, is more difficult because the government will have to negotiate with lawmakers who already wield considerable power over discretionary budget amendments,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"85\" data-block-id=\"5\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><span class=\"highlight\">In her view, although the campaign was marked by categorical rejections of changes to the minimum wage\u2019s real gains, the indexation of pensions and benefits, and constitutionally mandated minimum spending on health and education, avoiding these options would be a mistake<\/span>. Alternatives such as tightening the rule governing real expenditure growth\u2014which is currently capped at 2.5%\u2014as members of the economic team have already suggested, might avert an imminent crisis but would not deliver the credibility shock needed to bring real interest rates down more decisively.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles\" data-block-type=\"raw\" data-block-weight=\"70\" data-block-id=\"6\">\n<p class=\"content-text__container\">\n<blockquote class=\"content-blockquote theme-border-color-primary-before\"><p>\u201cThis middle-ground scenario would allow real interest rates to settle closer to 6.5% or 7%. That would only work under a very favorable global scenario that allowed the economy to grow considerably. Otherwise, the debt-to-GDP ratio would continue to rise very rapidly. In other words, with a middle-ground adjustment, you burn political capital to avoid a crisis but fail to escape mediocrity and remain vulnerable to new crises,\u201d she warns.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"37\" data-block-id=\"7\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\">She adds that the external environment is now fraught with considerably greater risks, including tighter monetary policy in the U.S. and an escalation of the conflict with Iran, which could put renewed upward pressure on oil prices.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"98\" data-block-id=\"8\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\">Asked what profile she would like to see in the next finance minister, Srour says the key is to have someone with \u201can understanding that the fiscal issue is not merely a demand from the market but a macroeconomic imbalance, and who has the president\u2019s confidence,\u201d since the minister will need to persuade him to take tough action. \u201cThere will be some degree of electoral fraud in the political sense of breaking campaign promises. It may be greater or smaller, but without it, the crisis will approach more quickly,\u201d she says. The following are excerpts from the interview:<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"21\" data-block-id=\"10\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Valor<\/strong>: <em>The election ended with a surprising victory for President Lula. From an economic standpoint, what needs to be done now?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"145\" data-block-id=\"11\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Solange Srour<\/strong>: There are several other economic issues and important reforms that need to be addressed, but fiscal reform is the priority today. This is not only because the situation we face is completely unsustainable. If nothing changes in the structural framework for mandatory spending, the debt-to-GDP ratio is very likely to grow faster than the 10-percentage-point increase recorded over the past four years, because the economy is expected to slow. But it is also because we have just gone through an election in which spending and subsidies expanded. The way the election unfolded, with Lula\u2019s turnaround backed by popular support in the streets, makes things more difficult because, ultimately, we are saying that some degree of breaking campaign promises will be necessary. It may be greater or smaller, but without it, the crisis will approach more quickly. The situation has become even more serious.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"67\" data-block-id=\"12\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\">We also have to consider that the global environment is much more challenging. Interest rates are higher worldwide, it is unclear whether the weak dollar that has greatly benefited domestic inflation will persist, and oil prices may not return to previous levels. So there is an enormous sense of urgency, but also considerable distrust, and that is what is driving markets in the aftermath of the election.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"7\" data-block-id=\"13\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Valor:<\/strong> <em>Can this package wait until 2027?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"131\" data-block-id=\"14\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Srour<\/strong>: Given the makeup of Congress in 2027, I think it would be smarter for the government to try to get these measures approved now, because it has a larger support base today and very good working relationships with the presidents of the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate. In the next legislative term, much will depend on who leads the two chambers. There will be a more organized center-right bloc. If that is not the strategy, then at least there should be greater clarity about what can be done. The current climate of speculation about possible finance ministers, with no plan announced, will continue to worsen market conditions over time, with significant consequences for the economy. The worse economic conditions become, the harder it will be to announce this agenda.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"32\" data-block-id=\"16\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Valor<\/strong>: <em>Several names are already being mentioned as possible candidates for the next finance minister. Most are politicians. Do you think appointing someone from outside politics would be important to restore credibility?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"134\" data-block-id=\"17\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Srour<\/strong>: I do not think that is important. What matters is having someone who understands that the fiscal issue is not merely a demand from the market but a macroeconomic imbalance, and who has the president\u2019s confidence, because the minister will need to persuade him to take tough action, especially after so many campaign promises. It is important that the person chosen be able to attract technical experts. There are many possible fiscal adjustment proposals, not only in terms of what should be done but also how it should be done. The key is for the minister to be able to attract qualified people who can put these measures into practice. The chief of staff will also play a very important role in ensuring that the economic team has an effective political coordination arm.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"55\" data-block-id=\"18\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Valor<\/strong>: <em>Adjusting the minimum wage\u2019s real gains, changing the indexation of pensions and benefits, and revising constitutionally mandated minimum spending on education and health are always cited as the most important fiscal adjustment measures, but both Lula and his opponent rejected them during the campaign. Is there a middle-ground measure that could satisfy the market?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"73\" data-block-id=\"19\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Srour:<\/strong> I think the most likely option is that they will tighten the rule governing real spending growth, perhaps to 1.5%. That would be a middle ground between allowing spending to grow only in line with inflation and the current rule, but it would still mean breaking a campaign promise. Former minister [Fernando] Haddad himself spoke in these terms before the campaign. The big question is whether the president will accept these proposals.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"87\" data-block-id=\"20\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\">Would that be enough? I believe that if it were accompanied by measures to reduce subsidies and tax expenditures, as well as higher taxation on LCI and LCA real estate and agribusiness credit instruments, it might provide some relief. But relief would mean reversing the deterioration seen in the post-election period, not achieving the lower real interest rates investors had envisioned as possible under Fl\u00e1vio [Bolsonaro]\u2014if everything had gone right\u2014at around 5.5%. This middle-ground scenario would allow real interest rates to settle closer to 6.5% or 7%.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"6\" data-block-id=\"22\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Valor:<\/strong> <em>That is still very high.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"71\" data-block-id=\"23\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Srour<\/strong>: That would only work under a very favorable global scenario that allowed GDP to grow considerably. Otherwise, the debt-to-GDP ratio would continue to rise very rapidly. In other words, with a middle-ground adjustment, you burn political capital to avoid a crisis but fail to escape mediocrity and remain vulnerable to new crises. What if the Federal Reserve raises interest rates more than expected? What if oil reaches $150 a barrel?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"12\" data-block-id=\"24\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Valor<\/strong>: <em>Beyond targeting the pace of spending growth, are immediate cuts necessary?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"67\" data-block-id=\"25\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Srour:<\/strong> To genuinely eliminate the risk of insolvency, the fiscal adjustment currently required is equivalent to around 4% of GDP, given prevailing market real interest rates and the level of debt. That is politically unfeasible, regardless of which candidate won the election. So what we need to do is put measures on the table that will deliver the equivalent of that adjustment over five to 10 years.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"127\" data-block-id=\"26\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\">That would include redesigning Bolsa Fam\u00edlia alongside other social programs to better target benefits, ending the indexation of the minimum wage to benefits and pensions, and reforming the social security system to raise the minimum retirement age and bring in additional sectors. When the Temer administration approved the spending cap, we saw a significant decline in interest rates. But nobody believed the spending cap alone would solve the problem. Rates fell because investors bought into the idea that a series of other reforms would make the spending cap sustainable for a considerable period. Some reforms were implemented, particularly the elimination of subsidies from the Brazilian Development Bank (BNDES), but changes were also approved to the minimum wage rule and the minimum spending requirements for education and health.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"28\" data-block-id=\"27\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\">The market needs an agenda capable of stopping the rapid growth in spending. A halfway adjustment does not deliver the credibility shock; it simply avoids the worst-case scenario.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"15\" data-block-id=\"29\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Valor<\/strong>: <em>So this agenda would not worsen the already weak outlook for growth in 2027?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"56\" data-block-id=\"30\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Srour<\/strong>: An economic slowdown is already locked in. This halfway agenda would simply help avert a recession, which is possible if interest rates remain at current levels and could even extend beyond 2027. On the other hand, a more robust agenda could bring real interest rates down sharply and help the economy as early as 2027.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"11\" data-block-id=\"31\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Valor<\/strong>: <em>Would a more right-wing Congress not help deliver fiscal adjustment?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"67\" data-block-id=\"32\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Srour<\/strong>: I do not think so. It could be a more limiting factor because negotiations will be harder. It is easier for Congress to embrace a populist measure because, when it goes wrong, the consequences will fall into the executive branch\u2019s lap. Spending control, by contrast, is more difficult because the government will have to negotiate with lawmakers who already wield considerable power over discretionary budget amendments.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"11\" data-block-id=\"33\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Valor<\/strong>: <em>Judicial reform was another issue that emerged during the election.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"78\" data-block-id=\"34\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Srour<\/strong>: It is certainly a demand from society and influenced the first round of voting. But from an economic standpoint, institutions also need to be reformed. We talk a lot about fiscal policy, but this level of legal uncertainty and the clashes between branches of government all affect the equilibrium interest rate and investment decisions in Brazil. So this agenda may need to move forward alongside fiscal reforms, especially since many of those reforms could face legal challenges.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"10\" data-block-id=\"35\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Valor<\/strong>: <em>Could Monday\u2019s asset price correction continue for much longer?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"96\" data-block-id=\"36\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Srour<\/strong>: Markets are waiting for news, so I think it could continue, yes. If nothing is done or announced in the coming weeks, the trend is for conditions to deteriorate further. And the external environment comes into play again; it could accelerate that deterioration. There is a possibility that, after the U.S. midterm elections, [President Donald] Trump could escalate the conflict with Iran. Israel will hold elections in a week. The global environment is becoming more inflationary. And the currency appreciation that would have benefited Brazil in the event of a Fl\u00e1vio victory will not materialize.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"11\" data-block-id=\"38\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Valor: <\/strong><em>How low could the Brazilian real fall, in your assessment?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"65\" data-block-id=\"39\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\"><strong>Srour<\/strong>: If nothing happens on the fiscal front, I would not rule out the foreign exchange rate exceeding R$6 per dollar. We also need to watch what the Central Bank does at its next meeting, because high interest rates are another factor supporting the real. If the Central Bank maintains its focus on slowing economic activity, that could put some pressure on the Brazilian currency.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mc-column content-text active-extra-styles \" data-block-type=\"unstyled\" data-block-weight=\"76\" data-block-id=\"40\">\n<p class=\" content-text__container \" data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\">In the interest rate market, it is also possible that the deterioration will not stabilize. If it becomes clear that the government will offer more of the same\u2014adjustments limited to anti-fraud measures, spending freezes, and taxation of LCI and LCA instruments\u2014I would not rule out interest rates rising by as much as they did yesterday [Monday, 26]. If all of this happens, we could enter a fiscal dominance dynamic in which the market loses its benchmark.<\/p>\n<p data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\">*By\u00a0 Marcelo Osakabe\u00a0\u2014 S\u00e3o Paulo<\/p>\n<p data-track-category=\"Link no Texto\" data-track-links=\"\">Source: Valor International<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Goal is to address deterioration in public finances caused by the election and take advantage of a more favorable Congress, argues Solange Srour 10\/27\/2026 Solange Srour, director of macroeconomics for Brazil at UBS GWM \u2014 Photo: Anna Carolina Negri\/Valor Brazil\u2019s 2026 election campaign worsened the country\u2019s fiscal problems and made it more urgent for the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8106],"tags":[27217,27218],"class_list":["post-100396","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-murray-news","tag-goal-is-to-address-deterioration-in-public-finances-caused-by-the-election","tag-lula-should-propose-fiscal-adjustment-this-year"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.0 - 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